Hier die nachricht habe ich von Andy Royer (The Bamboo Broker)erhalten. Habe ihm auch schon zurückgeschriben das England für uns nicht so gut ist besser Frankreich Italien oder Deutschland als Stantort.
Hello Friends! I hope this letter finds you all well. Some of you might get this letter twice, I am sorry about that. Please let me know if you would like me to remove you from this list.
This is Andy Royer of The Bamboo Broker. I am sending this email out to many of the customers I have had over the years throughout Europe . I am writing because I am planning to import a shipment of rod making bamboo directly into Europe in 2008.
Any customer who has bought my bamboo before now has had to ship the cane from Seattle and that has been very expensive. I would like to help everyone save money on shipping since that often seems like a waste of money! I would very much like to hear back from as many of you as possible. [I know that some of you have only recently received bamboo from me and maybe you do not need any more poles in the years to come. But some of you I have not worked with in several years. I want to keep this list full of names so I included everyone whose email address I could find.] Please send this email to any rod maker you know that may want some bamboo next year.
I would like to know how many people would like to order bamboo if we can arrange to ship it directly from England . I hope the shipping will be not so expensive for most of you if we can ship from the UK . Please either write back to me directly or put together a small group of makers in each country to share a shipment. I plan to go to China to select poles this winter and ship a container of poles to England in February or March of 2008. The fly rod poles will be poles that I select especially for rod makers so the quality should be very good. Every piece will be free from farmer’s marks and burn marks. The will all match the same requirements that I always hold for my fly rod maker customers.
At this time I have about one-half of a container filled with bamboo for some other markets in England . I now need to fill the rest of this container! Please let me know if you or your group needs any poles. I can ship bamboo poles for any other use in this container. Maybe your need “B” grade Tonkin poles if you teach a rod making class or some smaller bamboo stakes for your garden. I can ship any size bamboo pole in this container.
Please write to me if you have any information or questions for me.
Thank you
Merci
Danke
Gracias
Grazie
Dank u
Kiittää te
Tack själv,
Andy Royer
The Bamboo Broker.
Tonkin für Europa
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Hallo zusammen
Winterzeit=Rutenbauzeit!
Wie siehts bei Euch und Euren Werkstätten aus? Also ich muß demnächst mal wieder eine "Groß-Aufräumaktion" machen
und dann wieder mein Tonkin-Lager bestücken, bevor ich meine Hobeleisen schärfe!!!
Gibts bei jemand was neues über die Tonkin-Diskussionen im Oktober? Hab selber mal Kontakt mit der Fa. Conbam, die Forumsmitglied "bersi" nannte aufgenommen. Die wiederum teilten mir mit, dass sie selbst Kontakt direkt in China mit Tonkinbauern aufgenommen hätten und versuchen selbst zu importieren. Muß mal wieder nachhaken, da ich schon länger nichts mehr vom Stand der dinge gehört hab.
Vielleicht gibts bei Euch was neues?
Gruß, Friedrich
Winterzeit=Rutenbauzeit!
Wie siehts bei Euch und Euren Werkstätten aus? Also ich muß demnächst mal wieder eine "Groß-Aufräumaktion" machen
und dann wieder mein Tonkin-Lager bestücken, bevor ich meine Hobeleisen schärfe!!! Gibts bei jemand was neues über die Tonkin-Diskussionen im Oktober? Hab selber mal Kontakt mit der Fa. Conbam, die Forumsmitglied "bersi" nannte aufgenommen. Die wiederum teilten mir mit, dass sie selbst Kontakt direkt in China mit Tonkinbauern aufgenommen hätten und versuchen selbst zu importieren. Muß mal wieder nachhaken, da ich schon länger nichts mehr vom Stand der dinge gehört hab.
Vielleicht gibts bei Euch was neues?
Gruß, Friedrich
Hier ist der letzte Stand der Dinge:
Friends,
It is time to place orders of bamboo! I will ship the container direct from China on about the 1st of February. Please read the update on my webpage (highlight the text if you cannot read it) and let me know how many of what sized poles you would like to receive.
Again, I will be shipping the container first to England for all customers in the UK . Then I will try to make smaller shipments to France , Germany , Italy , Switzerland and Sweden . I will ship to one location in each of those countries and it will be up to each of you to arrange for final transportation to your shop.
I would like to know what city it is best to ship to for each country. So please write to me and let me know. I am still working to arrange shipping within Europe so I do not yet know if I will only be able to ship to one city in each country or several. I will let you know about that as soon as I can. It would be easiest for me to ship once to each country. If I do this it would be best to have one contact person for each country.
I have most of the information I need from the rod makers of Italy (if you are in Italy please be sure to be in touch with IBRA for more information).
But for now, please just read the update and let me know the number of poles each of you is interested in receiving. I will try to keep the prices the same as listed on the update for each country. Meaning that rod makers in England , Italy or Sweden will all pay about the same amount per bundle (but maybe some will have to pay more to ship it from one large city in their country to their home-town).
Also, rod makers in other countries, please also write and I will keep researching shipping methods.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more information from me. I do hope to come visit some of you this spring, maybe in Italy at the Rodmakers Gathering in May.
I await your messages!
Best regards and Happy New Year to all!
Friends,
It is time to place orders of bamboo! I will ship the container direct from China on about the 1st of February. Please read the update on my webpage (highlight the text if you cannot read it) and let me know how many of what sized poles you would like to receive.
Again, I will be shipping the container first to England for all customers in the UK . Then I will try to make smaller shipments to France , Germany , Italy , Switzerland and Sweden . I will ship to one location in each of those countries and it will be up to each of you to arrange for final transportation to your shop.
I would like to know what city it is best to ship to for each country. So please write to me and let me know. I am still working to arrange shipping within Europe so I do not yet know if I will only be able to ship to one city in each country or several. I will let you know about that as soon as I can. It would be easiest for me to ship once to each country. If I do this it would be best to have one contact person for each country.
I have most of the information I need from the rod makers of Italy (if you are in Italy please be sure to be in touch with IBRA for more information).
But for now, please just read the update and let me know the number of poles each of you is interested in receiving. I will try to keep the prices the same as listed on the update for each country. Meaning that rod makers in England , Italy or Sweden will all pay about the same amount per bundle (but maybe some will have to pay more to ship it from one large city in their country to their home-town).
Also, rod makers in other countries, please also write and I will keep researching shipping methods.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more information from me. I do hope to come visit some of you this spring, maybe in Italy at the Rodmakers Gathering in May.
I await your messages!
Best regards and Happy New Year to all!
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Hi Olaf,
irgendwie funktioniert die Seite von Andy Royer gerade nicht richtig, auf jeden fall kann ich das Winter 2008 Update nicht sehen. Vielleicht weißt Du genaueres über Preise und Lieferstadt. Evtl. gibst Du mir per PN Deine Tel.Nr. würde mich bemühen die Rutenbauer die ich aus dem süddeutschen Raum kenne zu kontaktieren. Vorausgestzt dass das
Preis/Leistungsverhältnis akzeptabel ist...
Gruß, Friedrich
irgendwie funktioniert die Seite von Andy Royer gerade nicht richtig, auf jeden fall kann ich das Winter 2008 Update nicht sehen. Vielleicht weißt Du genaueres über Preise und Lieferstadt. Evtl. gibst Du mir per PN Deine Tel.Nr. würde mich bemühen die Rutenbauer die ich aus dem süddeutschen Raum kenne zu kontaktieren. Vorausgestzt dass das
Preis/Leistungsverhältnis akzeptabel ist...
Gruß, Friedrich
Andy Royer ist einer von nur zwei (Charles H. Demarest) Weltweit die sich auf den kauf und handel von Bambus für den Rutenbau spezialesirt haben. Der Bambus ist also extra für den Rutenbau vorsortiert. Andy ist auch der Producent des Films Trout Grass www.troutgrass.com wo man seine Arbeit in China sehen kann. Er hat sich jetzt endschlossen seinen Bambus auch in Europa zuverkaufen was für uns Rutenbauer hier in Europa sicherlich eine grosse Hilfe sein wird. Bitte alle Anfragen an Andy Royer richten, ich habe mit dem Verkauf von dem Bambus nichts zu tuen. Ich gebe hier nur die Info weiter! http://www.bamboobroker.com/products.html
Gentlemen,
Greetings! Finally, an update, the first in over a year. I'm not quite moving at the speed of bamboo here but we are getting somewhere at last.
I was in China for the last two weeks of November selecting more fly-rod cane for 2008. My current supply in Seattle is completely exhausted. This new shipment will be in the warehouse by mid-February. I am compiling a "Wait List" now for North American and select overseas makers. Whoever wants to order cane can just let me know and I will add their names to the list. When I know more about the arrival date of this shipment I will let everyone know and start setting up shipments at that time.
I am working directly with rod makers groups in Australia, Europe and Japan this year. Shipments to all three locations will leave China by February of 2008. Contact me directly if you are not yet on a contact list for these locations. We will need confirmed orders by late January for these groups.
There are three sizes to choose from this year: 45-50mm, 50-55mm and 55+mm (that is roughly 1 7/8", 2", 2 1/4+"). As is normally the case, the smaller cane tends to be a bit "cleaner" in complexion while the largest pieces have more... uh, "character marks"... The big stuff is certainly big and heavy though; this is the stuff that guys building salmon or spey rods get excited about. Or guys who just like the big stuff. These poles are still a bit rare and there will only a couple hundred available per continent.
The overall quality of this year's poles is very good. But it is NOT a year for makers of blonde rods. Unlike my last selection period two years ago, this was not a year of exceedingly clean cane. There seems to be a pattern in the bamboo world that either renders poles that are a bit lighter weight and cleaner in complexion or heavier-weight with more marks. This year's poles are of the latter category. Blonde rods will have visible marks on them. These marks are the typical "water marks" most makers are familiar with. While not actually caused by water these are natural marks on the surface of most poles. How deep the markings go into the fibre is variable. Some of this year's poles have a lot of brown "freckles" on them but in my experience most any light brown marks are ONLY on the surface of the cane and they disappear when the enamel is scrapped off.
The overall colour of the bamboo is very good. As always I do allow for some cane with a greenish tinge to it. This is not the grass-green colour of poles that still need sun but a very light green. Often these poles cannot be made more yellow because if they are left in the sun they will quickly crack; they are as dry as can be. Depending on the weather at the time the poles are dried sometimes the poles just never get to that deep straw-yellow colour some makers prefer. Oddly enough the Chinese swear up and down that the poles with a bit of green in them represent stronger bamboo while they say the more yellow poles are getting older and weaker. The Chinese aren't rod makers though and they don't play a role in determining what is best for you makers. In any event, any green tint should cook out evenly.
I took to having the bottom 5-15 inches of each pole cut off. What I am trying to do is maximize the node spacing while leaving the heaviest part of the cane (the bottom of the pole) in tact. I pick a spot on each pole that I think gives us the best of both worlds.
As always, no slash marks or burn marks on this cane.
Prices are still being determined. I am waiting to learn what my final costs will be for shipping and importing. I will keep the prices as close to last years as possible. I imagine the prices may go up about $1/pole. I will get another update posted here on that issue within a couple of weeks. A price ESTIMATE is as follows:
45-50mm (1 7/8”) 10 pcs/bundle
~1-4 bundles $145
~ 5+ bundles $125
50-55mm (2”) 10 pcs/bundle
~1-4 bundles $185
~ 5+ bundles $165
55+mm (2 1/4+") 5 pcs/bundle
~1-5 bundles $115
~5 bundle maximum per order
Shipping rates will be similar to the past. This averages between $90-$140 per 1-4 bundle order depending on location throughout N. America. International shipping rates very widely, contact me for a quote. I am feverishly working on shipping rates for customers taking part in the group orders in Australia and Europe. My goal is to land the poles at one major city in each country for the same above prices so your shipping costs will only be the cost from Sydney or Stockholm or Hamburg for example.
Don't hesitate to write to me directly with any questions or comments.
Thank you one and all.
Warmth and joy to all as we speed on toward a new year!
-Andy
bamboo@w-link.net
Gentlemen,
Greetings! Finally, an update, the first in over a year. I'm not quite moving at the speed of bamboo here but we are getting somewhere at last.
I was in China for the last two weeks of November selecting more fly-rod cane for 2008. My current supply in Seattle is completely exhausted. This new shipment will be in the warehouse by mid-February. I am compiling a "Wait List" now for North American and select overseas makers. Whoever wants to order cane can just let me know and I will add their names to the list. When I know more about the arrival date of this shipment I will let everyone know and start setting up shipments at that time.
I am working directly with rod makers groups in Australia, Europe and Japan this year. Shipments to all three locations will leave China by February of 2008. Contact me directly if you are not yet on a contact list for these locations. We will need confirmed orders by late January for these groups.
There are three sizes to choose from this year: 45-50mm, 50-55mm and 55+mm (that is roughly 1 7/8", 2", 2 1/4+"). As is normally the case, the smaller cane tends to be a bit "cleaner" in complexion while the largest pieces have more... uh, "character marks"... The big stuff is certainly big and heavy though; this is the stuff that guys building salmon or spey rods get excited about. Or guys who just like the big stuff. These poles are still a bit rare and there will only a couple hundred available per continent.
The overall quality of this year's poles is very good. But it is NOT a year for makers of blonde rods. Unlike my last selection period two years ago, this was not a year of exceedingly clean cane. There seems to be a pattern in the bamboo world that either renders poles that are a bit lighter weight and cleaner in complexion or heavier-weight with more marks. This year's poles are of the latter category. Blonde rods will have visible marks on them. These marks are the typical "water marks" most makers are familiar with. While not actually caused by water these are natural marks on the surface of most poles. How deep the markings go into the fibre is variable. Some of this year's poles have a lot of brown "freckles" on them but in my experience most any light brown marks are ONLY on the surface of the cane and they disappear when the enamel is scrapped off.
The overall colour of the bamboo is very good. As always I do allow for some cane with a greenish tinge to it. This is not the grass-green colour of poles that still need sun but a very light green. Often these poles cannot be made more yellow because if they are left in the sun they will quickly crack; they are as dry as can be. Depending on the weather at the time the poles are dried sometimes the poles just never get to that deep straw-yellow colour some makers prefer. Oddly enough the Chinese swear up and down that the poles with a bit of green in them represent stronger bamboo while they say the more yellow poles are getting older and weaker. The Chinese aren't rod makers though and they don't play a role in determining what is best for you makers. In any event, any green tint should cook out evenly.
I took to having the bottom 5-15 inches of each pole cut off. What I am trying to do is maximize the node spacing while leaving the heaviest part of the cane (the bottom of the pole) in tact. I pick a spot on each pole that I think gives us the best of both worlds.
As always, no slash marks or burn marks on this cane.
Prices are still being determined. I am waiting to learn what my final costs will be for shipping and importing. I will keep the prices as close to last years as possible. I imagine the prices may go up about $1/pole. I will get another update posted here on that issue within a couple of weeks. A price ESTIMATE is as follows:
45-50mm (1 7/8”) 10 pcs/bundle
~1-4 bundles $145
~ 5+ bundles $125
50-55mm (2”) 10 pcs/bundle
~1-4 bundles $185
~ 5+ bundles $165
55+mm (2 1/4+") 5 pcs/bundle
~1-5 bundles $115
~5 bundle maximum per order
Shipping rates will be similar to the past. This averages between $90-$140 per 1-4 bundle order depending on location throughout N. America. International shipping rates very widely, contact me for a quote. I am feverishly working on shipping rates for customers taking part in the group orders in Australia and Europe. My goal is to land the poles at one major city in each country for the same above prices so your shipping costs will only be the cost from Sydney or Stockholm or Hamburg for example.
Don't hesitate to write to me directly with any questions or comments.
Thank you one and all.
Warmth and joy to all as we speed on toward a new year!
-Andy
bamboo@w-link.net
Hallo Olaf,hallo an alle,
ich habe Andy´s Mail auch bekommen und wäre auch sehr an seinem Bambus interessiert.Andy schreibt das er gerne einen Ansprechpartner/eine "Lieferstadt" hätte.Ich denke das wir in Deutschland schon das ein oder andere Rohr bestellt bekommen.Die sinnvollste Anlieferung wäre meiner Meinung nach wohl Hamburg.Wie seht Ihr das?
Gruß
Kevin
ich habe Andy´s Mail auch bekommen und wäre auch sehr an seinem Bambus interessiert.Andy schreibt das er gerne einen Ansprechpartner/eine "Lieferstadt" hätte.Ich denke das wir in Deutschland schon das ein oder andere Rohr bestellt bekommen.Die sinnvollste Anlieferung wäre meiner Meinung nach wohl Hamburg.Wie seht Ihr das?
Gruß
Kevin
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Hi,
hmmm Hamburg wäre natürlich für Andy am besten. Hast Du Speditionserfahrungen, für Rutenbauer aus dem Süden wäre es dann wohl gut wenn man sich abspricht. Also für den Preis sollten dann die Rohre ja erste Sahne sein, auf jedenfall Lohnt es sich wirklich erst ab den 5+Bündel, oder?
Gruß, Friedrich
hmmm Hamburg wäre natürlich für Andy am besten. Hast Du Speditionserfahrungen, für Rutenbauer aus dem Süden wäre es dann wohl gut wenn man sich abspricht. Also für den Preis sollten dann die Rohre ja erste Sahne sein, auf jedenfall Lohnt es sich wirklich erst ab den 5+Bündel, oder?
Gruß, Friedrich
Hallo Friedrich,
ich denke das der Transport mit einer Spedition durchaus machbar wäre,nur bräuchte man wohl einen Koordinator.Zu den Preisen:Man könnte ja eine Sammelbestellung aufgeben,ich z.b. brauche keine 5 Bündel(sprich 50 Rohre).Mit 1 oder 2 Bündeln wäre ich dabei,da könnte man sich ja vielleicht zusammentun?!Den Preis finde ich sehr ok,wenn man den Dollar Kurs nimmt kommt man bei einem Rohr auf einen Preis von ca. 10 Euro.Wäre nur die Frage wie hoch die Versandkosten bei Andy sind,aber auch die könnte man ja teilen.
Gruß
Kevin
ich denke das der Transport mit einer Spedition durchaus machbar wäre,nur bräuchte man wohl einen Koordinator.Zu den Preisen:Man könnte ja eine Sammelbestellung aufgeben,ich z.b. brauche keine 5 Bündel(sprich 50 Rohre).Mit 1 oder 2 Bündeln wäre ich dabei,da könnte man sich ja vielleicht zusammentun?!Den Preis finde ich sehr ok,wenn man den Dollar Kurs nimmt kommt man bei einem Rohr auf einen Preis von ca. 10 Euro.Wäre nur die Frage wie hoch die Versandkosten bei Andy sind,aber auch die könnte man ja teilen.
Gruß
Kevin
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Hi Kevin,
so seh ich das auch mit den Sammelbestellungen... So wie ich es auf der HP verstanden habe könnte es sein das nur noch die Transportkosten innerhalb der Länder in Europa anfallen?! Keine Ahnung wie gerade der Dollarkurs steht aber 115$ für 5x 55+mm Stangen sind doch mehr als 10€ pro Stück oder? Naja, wie auch immer, man bräuchte immer eine Person die mind. die 5Bündel bezahlt... und wie Du sagtest einen oder mehrere die die Abholung und das Verladen in z.B. Hamburg organisieren.
Gruß, Friedrich
so seh ich das auch mit den Sammelbestellungen... So wie ich es auf der HP verstanden habe könnte es sein das nur noch die Transportkosten innerhalb der Länder in Europa anfallen?! Keine Ahnung wie gerade der Dollarkurs steht aber 115$ für 5x 55+mm Stangen sind doch mehr als 10€ pro Stück oder? Naja, wie auch immer, man bräuchte immer eine Person die mind. die 5Bündel bezahlt... und wie Du sagtest einen oder mehrere die die Abholung und das Verladen in z.B. Hamburg organisieren.
Gruß, Friedrich
Was ist los keiner von den deutschen Rutenbauer hat Interesse an guten Bambus. Wenn die Lieferung weg ist wird es erst mal so schnell nichts neues geben.
Hello. I have not heard from any of the rod makers in Germany since I asked for order confirmations two weeks ago. I have group orders finalized from rod makers in England , France , Italy , Sweden and Finland . Do you know if rod makers in Germany will be making a group order or if they have already done so (with the Italians?)? Please get back to me when you can. I hope to ship the container in 2-3 weeks and I’d like to be sure that I have enough bamboo for everyone! Danke.
Hello. I have not heard from any of the rod makers in Germany since I asked for order confirmations two weeks ago. I have group orders finalized from rod makers in England , France , Italy , Sweden and Finland . Do you know if rod makers in Germany will be making a group order or if they have already done so (with the Italians?)? Please get back to me when you can. I hope to ship the container in 2-3 weeks and I’d like to be sure that I have enough bamboo for everyone! Danke.
Hallo an alle,
da ja wohl keiner den Koordinator machen will bleibt ja nicht mehr viel übrig als den Bambus dann selber in Hamburg am Hafen abzuholen.Es wäre wirklich schade wen man sich die Lieferung durch die Lappen gehen lassen würde,der Bambus von Andy soll wirklich Spitze sein!
Gruß und gut Span
Kevin
da ja wohl keiner den Koordinator machen will bleibt ja nicht mehr viel übrig als den Bambus dann selber in Hamburg am Hafen abzuholen.Es wäre wirklich schade wen man sich die Lieferung durch die Lappen gehen lassen würde,der Bambus von Andy soll wirklich Spitze sein!
Gruß und gut Span
Kevin
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